From: Kevin J. Bonham, sleepycat@eudoramail.com Subject: still more AENT Date: 2/10/2002 4:21:03 AM To: seance@lists.no-fi.com Sorry I don't quote bits of people's emails that I'm replying to much (or even sometimes remember who I'm replying to), a 100K+ digest shows up and sometimes there's five or six things to talk about. Once I used to post to this list about once a month. Hmmmmm..... Radiance: Yes, it clearly is Fatima (I picked that the first time the lyrics were posted here) with a few slight twists. "And the children never say what the message was" is *not* true to life - the messages are the so-called "three visions", the third of which was only recently officially released. The third was a great disappointment for those who believe in this stuff, because all it really did was supposedly predict the failed assassination attempt on the Pope in the early 80s, and not only was it not released before the event but it was also hung onto for almost 20 years after. If you are going to be a prophet, make your prophecies *known in advance* and *unambiguous* or, as far as I'm concerned, shut up :) If you're worried about knowledge of the prophecy changing the events, then put it in a time capsule or something. And yes, I completely agree with Greg, wringing September 11 out of "Numbers" is a pretty big call, and I hope Steve was only being facetious or playing games Reprieve - after really not liking this song for quite a while on account of the repetitive and dull lyrics (and the way Steve sings "Buddha" the first time round - only bit of singing on the album that I don't like) I actually started to see some appeal in it. It's like an experiment in form, trying to see how many different ways they can string the same lyrics together, the music is always changing but the lyrics are the repeating theme, it's almost the inverse of what a Church song (excluding blatant jams like "Chaos") would normally be. Still not my favourite on the album by a long shot. Too rock-star. Song for the Asking - the lyric in question I hear as "song for the big movie". The "yea yea yea" doesn't bother me, maybe there is too much of this hey man/yeah sort of stuff on the album generally, but I'm not really bugged by it just yet. AENT and SIC - I agree with Paige that Steve does a very good job of making his emotional statements universal on this album. I think he's playing a bit of a game by still using autobiographical detail in a few songs - making a version of himself a character in his own little story because he feels like it. Maybe SIC is completely autobiographical. I just hope AENT is not - it's too sad. Different moods of the Church - As well as adding to the comments about how good it is that they've been so diverse and kept going for so long, I'd add that every Church album is its own little corner of the universe for me. I do find some much better than others but there isn't any one which is dispensable either on the grounds of simply repeating previous work or on the grounds of being rubbish. With most artists who I have a lot of albums by, I find that there are some I simply *never* listen to - not so here. Cheers, Kevin. --- Self-Appointed President, Oxydental Fan Club Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com