From: Par Ekstrand, pe@mech.kth.se
Subject: Re: bad fan reviews
Date: 2/7/2002 2:18:57 PM
To: seance@lists.no-fi.com


Hi !

I don't think the album is bad, I really like it.  I also like the "new" sound
in a way but I really would like the melodies and especially Steve's voice to
stand out more in the mix. I think that he has such a good voice that it can
be given a more central possision in the music. I like the "radiotronics" and
the atmospherical (how do you spell tihis ?) sounds a lot and I think it's good

that they don't redo BC over again. I listen a lot to Bill Nelson and the
likes.

But I can't help having this feeling that I hear the music from behind a veil
or
curtain.  I can hear it's really good, but I want to uncover the veil and
really
hear it :)

I have listened to the album in my little studio using 3 different sets of
speakers
in a quite controled environment.

Even though I have my doubts about the production a think it's
a great album. ( I will burn a new CD and replace Seen It Comming
with the preview/monitor mix though.)

I think you are right about listening to records a lot of times makes it
easier to pick out melodies and the vocie for instance. I like it when there is

a lot to explore but I would prefer the intimacy of Steves voice to be
reproduced
in a more natural and crisp way. I think that is a big part of what made
me like the Church in the first place.

Or maybe I'm just getting old :)

All the best,
Par



> I think the production on the album is nothing short of amazing, and I don't
> think anything is really buried in the mix.  Maybe the people making these
> kinds of remarks have a crappy stereo or something or just haven't listened
> to it enough times.  The first few times I heard it a lot of the tracks
> seemed like a pretty big mess production-wise, but now I'm starting to hear
> all the little treasures Tim hid in some of the songs.  And it really
> works...it's like the best elements of the Church as well as people like My
> Bloody Valentine and Radiohead.
> In addition, I don't think you can even compare this album to the older
> stuff like BC.  In my opinion The Church seem to have given up that old
> classic rock/psychedelic sound altogether, although that's not at all a bad
> thing.  It's obvious to me, anyway, that they have really settled into a new
> sound and probably won't be making any more albums that sound like Starfish.
>
> >How can you listen to these collection of songs and not find them >amazing?
> >No
> >offense, I just't don't understand how one seancer gave the album a 2 >out
> >of
> >5 because of muddy mix? Excessive radiotronics? Slow Tempo? Did you >listen
> >to
> >it in a rushed manner? Give it a re-listen.
>
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