From: drew -, spacepiano@hotmail.com Subject: Re: Church (Marty) Guitar Sound Date: 2/1/2002 2:30:46 PM To: seance@lists.no-fi.com Hey, all. Not that long ago I finally got a pedalboard for my Pod guitar effects unit - it added a volume pedal (and wah amongst other things) and made it real easy to get those Destination type sounds. As others have commented I think Marty actually uses his finger on his guitar's volume control to get that Destination effect, but he also definitely uses a volume pedal on other stuff, probably p=a and beyond. I had a lot of free time at work today, so here's a lot of quotes related to Marty's gear and volume pedals, with links below. here's a quote from marty circa 1998: "My favourite set up I like to use is two Vox AC 30's early sixties models with two of the tone controls on the back ,an Ibanez UE 405 Multi Effects Unit with two outs for stereo with the compressor, stereo chorus and analog delay pretty much on all the time but only just,a volume pedal ,two of the early yellow Boss distortion pedals ,the ones with only two knobs.I also like to use my Watkins copycat and my 301 and 501 space echoes but they are always to quirky and bulky and fragile to travel with so I haven't used them that much with The Church.I just used my old boss stereo chorus/tremolo pedal on the recent acoustic tour which Pete and I both used to use a lot in the early days of the band, but you can have overload problems with them if you put too much signal into it and my pedal lasted 6 gigs before breaking down at the last show.As I said a lot of this old gear can be pretty fragile and that's why we all need a studio and a great technician to be able to use this stuff regularly and keep it all functioning.Like old Jags they need constant attention. " from the p=a press release: "Marty came back from his gig with The Eves (All About Eve) and had a volume pedal which he had been getting seriously into. This was enabling him to swell up and die, appear and dissolve in strange and unusual windows in the sound. Peter became a huge background and an intricate embroidery at the very front and the two of them together sometimes sounded like an orchestra of screams, sighs and voices of beauties and beasts. Jay Dee played his drums savagely yet precisely, like he was taking a slow but pleasurable revenge upon the songs. The three of them made writing a very easy and inspiring process. For months we alternated between a rehearsal studio and a small recording studio. Everything happened in Sydney, for no particular reason. " sa/se era i think: "We've done the jangly guitar thing so much in the past," adds Kilbey, "that we were a little bit tired of it, you know? And this time, it was like we had more time and space, so we got to play with the sound and play with more effects and more instruments. We had all those little yellow overdrive and distortion boxes lying around and kind of decided 'if one pedal is good, then two might be twice as good, and three might be three times as good."' Willson-Piper relied heavily on some old standbys, though. "For a lot of stuff I used an old Ibanez analog delay that has stereo out, along with a volume pedal, which I think is the most creative effect I've ever had. It doesn't really do anything, which is why it's so fantastic. Everything about a volume pedal has to do with feel and the way you play." plus "Willson-Piper, a Liverpool, England, native who migrated to Australia in the late '70s before joining the Church, plays through Vox AC30 amplifiers, stopping first at an Ibanez UE-405 multi- effects pedal for analog delay and stereo chorus. "I've discovered a new effect recently - my foot," he grins. "I'm getting some amazingly expressive sounds with a Boss FV-100 volume pedal." " from a fan review: "Pedal info: Marty used Boss Overdrive, Overdrive 2 and Sustainer pedals. He had volume and wah-wah foot pedals, his Ibanez unit and another one I didn't recognize." and p=a/gaf era church laugh at said volume pedal: "As long as Marty brought something positive back from his moonlighting experience... Steve grins, "He did actually,cause he came back playing guitar with a volume pedal, cause he got a free volume pedal out of the deal. It sounded good." Jay Dee and Peter are choking on chuckles. Let's make it obvious how little Marty gained artistically. Steve smiles anew, "Even if you go away and realize how good you've got it with your own group, that might be a good thing. The only bad thing would be to go with another group and they were suddenly successful and made a lot of money and then asked you to stay with them full time. I'm sure someone could be bribed out of the group. I know I could! If I was offered enough money I'd be out of the Church! Honestly! If someone came along and said we'll pay $10,000 a week to be under exclusive contract to us and not to play with anybody but us, you'd go 'where do I sign?'" laughs Steve. Honestly? Steve is serious. "You'd do it! Say it was an offer like the Beatles were reforming and 'we want you to be in it. We're going to give you a million dollars a year but you can't be in anything else' and they say 'but we still want you to write songs and be yourself' you'd go... 'sorry lads,' and I am sure they'd understand! And I would understand it for them. And if All About Eve did become huge and Marty had to leave, then that would be part of the evolution of the band. I wouldn't hold it against him, as long as he gave us enough notice." i got all these links through google: http://church.tristesse.com/seance/martans2.htm http://church.tristesse.com/stories/brimelb1.txt http://church.tristesse.com/intrview/prstrele.htm http://church.tristesse.com/intrview/9412_gpt.htm http://church.tristesse.com/intrview/9410_gpt.htm http://church.tristesse.com/intrview/iv5all.txt <---recommended! -Drew --- Julian Shaw <<>>>> _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com