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From list manager Matt Maxwell [firstname.lastname@example.org]:
Well, it's like this. Not so long ago, there was a mailing list devoted to Spacemen 3 and related bands, called Hypnodrone. Originally, DroneOn... was conceived to be a successor to that list, giving SP* fans somewhere to talk and pass information. The signal-to-noise on alt.music.alternative and other newsgroups is rapidly becoming intolerable. The Indie-List seems pretty happy with dicussion of bands and releases that are pretty much current, so i didn't want to set up shop there either. Hence, a new list.
DroneOn is a mail reflector, and not available as a digest at this time. We'll burn that particular bridge when we get to it. However, i will be holding onto all the postings, and will make them available as archives as time passes.
There are no FAQs yet. We haven't been around enough to get tired of the same question being asked over and over. As for definitions of psychedelic music, uhh...That's a good one. We'll work on it. However, psych _does_not_ mean classic rock, since there are people on the list who'd be happy to talk about Spiritualized, Flying Saucer Attack, and a bunch of others, all of whom are putting out great psych-derived records today.
There's very few rules, well, none, really. Just don't mention Jesus Jones or use the term 'alternative' when describing a band, or say 'Hey, anyone out there as big a fan of Lenny Kravitz as I am?' Really, folks, just talk about the music and you'll fit right in. Oh yeah, anyone saying 'So and so (for example, Kate Radley) is a real babe,' will be terminated with extreme prejudice. Get it? Other than that, just use your judgement. And that's about all the rules i can stand, personally. But there is one more, actually: don't be afraid to bring up a new topic for discussion. 'Nuff said.
Actually, there is one more rule. If you want to post a commercial advertisement, please clear it with me first. I don't mind anyone posting such, just no hit and run sorts of announcements. Commerce is great. Hell, we're doing it right now. I just don't want DroneOn turned into the latest advertising space on the net. And if you're going to post large messages (say, over 20K), then you might want to consider if you wouldn't rather put it up on a WWW site, or simply solicit interest, and mail to any folks who are interested.
Beginning in March 2003, all subscription management is handled via a web interface.
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 16:00:28 -0800
From: mmaxwell@UCSD.EDU (Matthew Maxwell)
Subject: Read, please: elitism and manners and other shit
re: elitism in general
I find it very difficult to believe that someone on DroneOn would post a recommendation of something that they didn't like, just so they could appeal to the hipsters (all 350 of us) on the list.
Folks, this is a mailinglist. We're all record geeks/musicians/fans. That's it. There's nobody to impress. This isn't a popularity contest. It isn't about who can namecheck the most obscure bands (though i believe that honor goes to Mr. McMullen) or about who has the biggest record collections. It is about sharing the enjoyment or knowledge of this very loose conglomeration of sounds/bands/music.
I sincerely hope that we continue to expand the numbers of bands that we talk about (so long as they 'fit' within the loose criteria we have established here). Seriously, if we hadn't expanded upon that list in our first six months, this list would have died, and rightfully so. It would have been minutae after minutae after minutae.
I'm not even sure where this 'elitism' came from, but then i'm an insensitive bastard, so it would probably have to hit me over the head before i saw it. I know that when i post, i tend to use a voice that is rather sarcastic and on the wrong side of blunt, more often than not. However, i rarely direct that at people/posters in specific.
(humming of your national anthem begins....)
One thing that is very easy to forget, especially on the net, is that you are talking to other human beings out there. This is an observation which gets made to death, and therefore, is widely ignored by a lot of people when they use the net. They hear it over and over and it never really sinks in. Folks, every author out there is a human much like yourself; a person who was interested enough to seek out this little slice of the net so that they could talk about music, specifically a lot of music that gets short shrift everywhere else.
Please treat them with the respect that you would wish yourself treated with. Before you unlimber the flamethrower, make real sure that its the right thing to do. Don't be an ass. We're here to talk about music, not to prove how a big a fan you are. Because nobody really cares about that.
I hope this made sense. I've had a couple of off-list discussions about the subject of list manners, and the lack thereof. I'm not interested in telling people what they can and cannot say, but i am interested in keeping the environment relatively bullshit-free, so that we can talk about more important things.
Attacking people on their race, gender, creed, or musical transgressions.
I mean this. I am not interested in name calling. You want to do that, you can take it straight to alt.music.alternative (where you will learn just how hard a low signal-to-noise ratio sucks). Of course, i can't outlaw flames, short of moderating DroneOn (no thanks, i already have a life), that is impossible unless the subscribers try to keep it at a minimum themselves.
As for posts that presume a level of knowledge about the bands in question...(hi, Nadine, just saw your recent post)...that's an occupational hazard. Don't be afraid to ask someone to get you up to speed off-list, or check the FAQ. Though the FAQ will have to expand like a rabid shoggoth to keep up.
Well, that was a remarkably disorganized, stream-o-consciousness post. I hope that it makes some sense to someone. Personally, i'm pleased that DroneOn has become a useful resource (for myself as much as anyone else subscribed) and i hope that it can continue to do so in the future.
Matt, the once and future High Overlord of DroneOn...
The DroneOn compilation is a ninety-minute tape of music and noises from the various musicians and bands on DroneOn. Full details on it are available at the No-Fi Records site at http://www.no-fi.com. A second DroneOn compilation, known as DroneOn vs. Mothra, is in the works for a Spring '99 release.
Given any large music mailing list it's perhaps inevitable that end-of-year "best of" polls would be taken, and for better or worse, DroneOn isn't any different. Jim Flannery graciously compiles the top 10 albums of DroneOn members annually. The lists are available at:
The full results aren't available on line, but the top 25 were: